Mean Jean, strikes again...
Article Here.
Once upon a time back when the rocky was the Democrat Paper, and not the Hard right, Libertarian/Authoritarian paper they use to have a religious writer that was like a comparative religions professor. He would write a story, present both side of the argument on controversial subjects, or if he wrote an article about a Church/Religion/Sect he would write it in a way that allowed others not of that Church/Religion/Sect to learn about them and not done in an demeaning/my-beliefs-are-better-than-yours kind of way. It was a pleasure to read his articles on Saturdays because you would always learn something.
Not so with Mean Jean.
She is condescending and spiteful, and very much a right wing Christian. If there is away to make I seem that the forces of good are on her side she will do her best to spin it that way. If there is a way to do in article in a “look at the crazy X people, we are all in on the fact that they are wrong.” She will do it.
So, last weekend was the big Colorado Episcopalian convention in Denver, and here is what she had to right about it:
Episcopal panel to examine gay rights
By Jean Torkelson, Rocky Mountain News
October 11, 2006
So far so good…..
The ongoing culture war among America's Episcopalians has spurred Colorado Bishop Rob O'Neill to create a task force to examine gay rights issues "in light of the changing landscape of our church."O'Neill announced the panel during last weekend's state convention, in Denver, which he described Tuesday as a "positive experience," but which one prominent conservative priest/theologian said was marked by a "screaming match" as liberal and conservative forces squared off.
It became apparent that underneath the surface there is a deep, deep division," said the Rev. Ephraim Radner, a Pueblo pastor, Yale educated theologian and author of books on the future of the church.
Nice job of showing that Bias Jean, subtle and but effective. This O'Neill guy is just the Bishop, but this Radner guy went to Yale, and has written books!
Unrest, lawsuits and division have dogged the Episcopal Church USA since 2003, when it approved the naming of an openly gay bishop in New Hampshire and OK'd the development of same-sex blessings.At the time, O'Neill, who favors extending gay rights in the church, created a task force to assess the situation in Colorado's 35,000-member diocese. It concluded that same-sex blessings should be put on hold until the issue stabilized nationally.
So, O’Neill, is trying his best to do something straight forward and positive, and allowing both sides to try and work out an agreement. It doesn’t make either side happy, which is a good place to start to work things out.
O'Neill said Tuesday that his new task force will "revisit the agreements we made three years ago."He said he hasn't decided on participants, but said the panel will be a diverse group of liberals, conservatives, and gay and straight members.
"Many people want to make this a referendum on sexuality," he said. "It's not."
"This diocese is not falling apart," he added. "We're more together than we've been in years."
Radner, however, said "pandemonium broke out" at the convention between the gay rights faction and conservatives as each tried to make statements.
Pandemonium! Gah! *Tries to Picture Episcopalian Pandemonium, but can’t*
The bishop characterized the confrontation as "one angry moment at the microphone.""Which doesn't mean we don't have issues," O'Neill said, adding that he supports Radner's "desire for unity."
If I remember correctly, Radner is one of the Reverends thinking about taking his church lock stock and barrel and turning it over to the African Anaglican Mission over the issue of rights. So, I will assume that for Radner, Unity means do as I say, or I will pick up my ball and go home.
Comments
A couple of comments:
1. Ephraim Radner has actually done a lot to try and keep the conservative south (of Colorado) in the diocese. He's been much more of a unifier than some other folks down there. He is also very scholarly, and he's sharp as a tack, and I wouldn't dismiss anything he says out of hand, at least theologically, even though I often disagree with significant chunks of it.
He's definitely been an intellectual comfort to the conservative elements in the diocese (and was their pick for bishop last election), but I he's definitely not a "pick up my ball and go home" type, from what I've seen and heard of him. If he's characterized as pushing for unity, I believe that.
2. My understanding of the "pandemonium."
Bp. O'Neill asked that this be a "resolution-less" convention. A group of folks had proposed a handful of resolutions in support of the role of gays in the church. In deference to the bishop's wishes, they withdrew them, but asked that they be given a chance to speak to the convention. O'Neill gave them that, but out of fairness also gave Rev. Radner an opportunity to say a few things.
Each took their turn at the mic. But then, from what I understand, one of the folks who's been a leader in supporting gay rights in the diocese went up, unbidden, took the mic, and started denouncing (in, I am told, rather shrill, even hysteric tones) O'Neill for breaking his promise from the last year of giving the conservatives the "last word" on the subject at the convention. A recess was called, and people sort of shuffled away, talking in mortified tones about the individual, who was still shouting about this.
Once things resumed, everything was back "under control."
I wouldn't call that pandemonium -- though, I suppose, for we straight-laced Episcopalians, it might apply. Then again, I wouldn't trust a direct quote written by Ms. Torkelson if I was there with a tape recorder.
Posted by: *** Dave | October 11, 2006 3:41 PM
So, very true
On the rest of it, good to know. I must have had Radner confused with the Springs Reverend....must be Armstrong then. And it does sound like O'Neill did a good job of trying to keep the peace and letting folks cool off for a bit before continuing.
So, good. I hope that Radner and O'Neill can work together and put this Force together....oh...and you have somefree time now, right Dave? :)
Posted by: Boulder Dude | October 11, 2006 3:52 PM
*cough*
Not ... on ... my ... worst ... enemy ...
*cough*
Anyhow, yeah, and the fact that Rev. Armstrong wasn't among the interviewed makes me wonder (a) was he at convention, and (b) if so, how much time did Torkelson actually spend there that any of the "juicy bits" were second-hand references?
When you think of Ephraim Radner, btw, imagine Woody Allen crossed with that really smart kid from high school, who went on to get a zillion theology degrees. He's a very interesting guy, and I very much value the chance I had to hear him speak as a candidate for bishop.
As to making things well ... well, I fear it's a bigger job than either O'Neill or Radner can handle. Alas.
Posted by: *** Dave | October 11, 2006 7:34 PM
Now, if you want the Exciting Pandemonium Story of the Convention, turn here.
Posted by: *** Dave | October 11, 2006 7:52 PM
Yes, that was exciting.
Hrm....Still talking about the church spliting I see though.
Posted by: Boulder Dude
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October 11, 2006 8:29 PM
I think it's inevitable, sadly. Too many people (on both sides, honestly, though the conservatives get most of the press) want it.
Posted by: *** Dave | October 12, 2006 7:51 PM